tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post8387529385907578534..comments2023-12-05T05:27:21.923-05:00Comments on nKoTb Summer Cruise 2012: PSA: Don't spend money on Retro RewindKatiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17998224990570709252noreply@blogger.comBlogger251125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-2995587504232272352010-01-19T04:54:59.043-05:002010-01-19T04:54:59.043-05:00I noticed some comments about LGT and how supposed...I noticed some comments about LGT and how supposedly Joe said they werent taking cash donations anymore, so how could dave have donated to them if Joe said they arent taking cash donations anymore...so I went to their website to check and you still can donate online at LGT AND Firstbook.org<br />Here is the link I found http://url2it.com/bted <br />Dont know if this helps, but I figured why not put all the facts out there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-14590580448405866292010-01-18T18:12:39.833-05:002010-01-18T18:12:39.833-05:00I can vouch for the hand picking of contest winner...I can vouch for the hand picking of contest winners, it happened to a friend of mine and she declined because that is contest fraud to do that. I wish everyone was as honest as she is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-837672556255399022010-01-18T16:53:35.672-05:002010-01-18T16:53:35.672-05:00Glad to see you join in Luckee-The true INJUSTICE ...Glad to see you join in Luckee-The true INJUSTICE isn't in stealing our $$, but casting a dispicable light on the Fight For BREAST CANCER RESEARCH, The fight for LITERACY, & so many other things that we were FALSELY SOLICITATED into thinking we were contributing to.<br /><br />Therefore, all though it may seem that we are standing strong for a few paltry dollars$$ stolen from us...in the larger scheme of things we must let others know we will not stand for the above Movements (LITERACY,CANCER,PEDIATRIC ILLNESS/POVERTY)to be piggybacked upon for the personal financial gains of scham artists! <br /><br />These societal issues are REAL & we continue to face them everyday...I am proud to stand together w/my BH community...<br /><br />No amount of over due promise keeping,refunds from his personal paypal account, or even a NK can truly undo the illicit things Retro Rewind/Dave& Jenn Harris have done.<br /><br />"The time is always right to do what is right."-Dr Martin Luther King,JrAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-79390600344757735682010-01-18T16:33:43.645-05:002010-01-18T16:33:43.645-05:00*****WOW******
At the above poster!!! Thank you f...*****WOW****** <br />At the above poster!!! Thank you for coming forthright w/HONESTY. Although, I am not at all surprised, it is still astounding to see it spelled out. Thank you again for speaking up & doing the right thing. YOU WILL NOT REGRET IT.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-57197394739187726122010-01-18T16:28:57.656-05:002010-01-18T16:28:57.656-05:00I've read some tweets and also have a feeling ...I've read some tweets and also have a feeling there are some lurking that may be inclined to dismiss this RR issue as just drama. There is a difference between fighting for what's right and drama. Drama serves as entertainment. Fighting for what's right seeks change or action. This country would not have advanced as far as it has had it not been for the courageous to stand up for what they believed to be wrong and fight. This was not to cause drama, shaking things up a bit is what is needed in order to have change.<br /><br />True this is not at the level of woman's suffrage or slavery but any fight no matter how small can be honorable if it is meant to serve the greater good. Especially if the one putting themselves out there has much to lose.<br /><br />Some may say there are bigger things to worry about. And I say worry has never helped anyone. Do your part to help the bigger problems, but than fight the smaller battles that need it as well, such as this. Who says we only have to fight the big fights and ignore the small injustices? Scam artists would LOVE for everyone to feel that way as they tend to hit small in greater quantity.<br /><br />I hope no one has felt bad about coming forward thinking this is nothing but drama. It took a lot for Katie to put this out there when she has very little or nothing to gain. Those who know me know I don't support drama so wouldn't be commenting if I didn't think this will help.<br /><br />This is not to make anyone feel bad for not contributing. If you have not personal experience with RR, you may not have anything to contribute. But please don't dismiss this as drama. It's a valid concern had by many coming together to seek resolution. Power in numbers, not drama.<br /><br />My name is Patricia and I endorse this fight.<br />@luckee13Patriciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09343111384778078011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-24785979080842458472010-01-18T15:40:14.917-05:002010-01-18T15:40:14.917-05:00I just want to say, I can vouch first hand that th...I just want to say, I can vouch first hand that this contest is a sham! I won't go into all the details, but at one point, I was supposed to be a Chicago winner (+1) for a contest I never entered. I also don't have a gold membership. I do not have any ties to RR or Jenn or Dave (I've disliked Dave's name dropping from the first day I followed him). I've never had any contact with them at all!<br /><br />RR was basically hand-picking people to go to the Chicago show, and even for those winners not ponying up the promises of travel or hotel. <br /><br />Because of all the shadiness involved with all of this, we all decided to back away. It appears from Joey's tweet, that they found others to go along with the scam. <br /><br />RR was going to get winners, it just wasn't going to be legally done! I don't want to go any further into this since I don't want to get sucked into BH drama. Just know, this contest was a sham and if you donated or bought gold for a chance to win, I would demand a refund!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-54225255646011555852010-01-18T14:35:49.177-05:002010-01-18T14:35:49.177-05:00I have sent numerous emails to Jenn and Dave over ...I have sent numerous emails to Jenn and Dave over the course of the contest and since KT posted this blog. I have received no response from Dave or Jenn regarding these issues. I filed a compaint with the California Department of consumer affairs. I have received an email back from them stating that this matter needs to be taken up with the California Attorney Generals office. They hndle these types of consumer complaints as well as charity fraud. I have forwarded my complaint to them.<br /><br />I urge those of you who were affected by the Harris Family to do the same. The more complaints they receive the more likely Retrorewind will be investigated. <br /><br /><br /><br />http://ag.ca.gov/contact/complaint_form.php?cmplt=CL<br /><br /><br />Thank You,<br /><br />@ccsilva2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-32016521425065949952010-01-18T11:23:32.901-05:002010-01-18T11:23:32.901-05:00Jenn's empty threat of a libel suit doesn'...Jenn's empty threat of a libel suit doesn't scare me for one second. One, for this to be libel, it would have to be untrue. Two, they'd have to be completely BSC to get anywhere near a legal professional on this subject. So much of the stuff they've been doing, particularly the contests and charity drives, is illegal, some of it punishable with jail time. They can try to scramble to come up with the promised HWGA photos now (has anyone received those?), but they can't go back in time and manage the contests legally. If they have any sense, they won't be asking for more "charity" money or hosting more contests.Katiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17998224990570709252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-63973753786328215442010-01-16T21:59:11.044-05:002010-01-16T21:59:11.044-05:00***I DONT CARE WHAT JOE TWEETS SAY-THERE'S ABS...***I DONT CARE WHAT JOE TWEETS SAY-THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO WAY HE KNOWS THE EXTENT OF RETRO REWINDS MISDOINGS****<br />Everyone here knows how involved & hidden all of Dave & Jenn's misdeeds are & just think of the people that keep reading this blog & being shocked--It's the same for Joe-<br /><br />I dont believe Joe knows the extent of ALL the LIES,FUNDs $$ MISAPPROPRIATION,PROMISES that RetroRewind has made/done. <br />Sure I think Dave prob called him up & said "yeah people are complaining about the contest "bro" sore losers that havent won"--<br /><br />But I HIGHLY doubt Joe knows EVERYTHING that has been going on-->constant promises of this & that from Joe, the never ending DONATIONS we are repeatedly asked to make to Retro Rewinds personal accounts(I would NOT even be so sure that Joe even knows Dave CHARGES people to enter these contests)<br /><br />I'm sure Dave pleaded to Joe to throw him a bone right now--Why else would Dave not tweet the names himself? You can also easily see in the vids that Dave is NOT CLOSE w/Joe as he has lead BHs to believe...acquantainces? sure..but definitely not close personal friends like he is w/Grimes<br />************************************************Dave,IF U DONATED $$ TO LEGITIMATE CHARITIES-WHY WOULD U OFFER TO "REFUND" $$ BACK TO DONATERS OUT OF YOUR OWN POCKET?************************************************Something is foul in Denmark--we all know it & so does the JoeMac Camp!!!!!<br />************************************************ <br />Joe's people are just trying to make good on what his name is attached to so that all this TRUTH about Dave isnt attached to the Joe Mac name ****I do not blame them 1 bit--get these winners to a show & then rid yourself of RetroRewind & that wrath of lies/leeching**** <br /><br />If Dave was REALLY good friends w/Joe McIntyre he would NEVER use his name constantly like he does---There are personal close friends of several NKs on twitter & I've never once seen any of them tweet to or about Joe(or ANY NK for that matter)...why would they?<br /><br />I WOULDNT UNDERESTIMATE JM--He will more than likely soon rid himself of all things of the INTERNET Radio Show Retro Rewind & Dave & Jenn Harris, as well-<br /><br />I'm sure Joe hates NK Fans being taken advantage of just as much as Donnie does...BTW-why has no one brought up the "DONATIONS" Retro Rewind was asking for/collecting for KOMEN BREAST CANCER (he said for Danny-hmmmm)for a 3pack request of songs back in Spring/Summer???? I suspect b/c alot of you dont know about those b/c u rarely listened to his show-just followed him on twitter for Joe Inf0-But I know b/c I LISTENED to the show & yes, for a DONATION TO KOMEN BREAST CANCER RESEARCH-you got a "3Pack" request of songs-& Yes those donations were also made DIRECTLY TO RETRO REWIND where he said all that $$ would go to KOMEN <br />Those donations can be very easily traced-but then again we all pretty much know KOMEN didnt get thAT $$$ either...This donate to Komen,LGT,Sick Child,USC Hospital-Jules stuff is sick,sick & punishable by law-<br /><br />Komen Cancer Research will not tolerate false solicitations in their name. GOOD LUCK Dave Harris-May you be forgiven!!!!<br />P.S. No one send Dave Harris anything for Haiti-b/c I'm sure he's gonna help them out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-40674976421533028792010-01-16T02:07:02.877-05:002010-01-16T02:07:02.877-05:00Regarding Joe's tweet...he listed 5 winners, 2...Regarding Joe's tweet...he listed 5 winners, 2 of the listed winners were winners from Oct and Nov Joe Show contests.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-75508484582605187982010-01-16T01:16:35.138-05:002010-01-16T01:16:35.138-05:00I see there has been a full day of 'spinning&#...I see there has been a full day of 'spinning' on the behalf of Retro Rewind. I would gladly post my comments on their blog, but @chargerjenn closed comments after 2 hours (in the middle of the night), despite her vow to address issues/questions. <br /><br />My problems with the most recent activities:<br /><br />1. 'tons' of goldie winners for JM rehearsal contest yet Per JM's tweet tonight -- only 5 (really 4 since they seem to be counting the Brinley winner as a rehearsal winner). It seems RR seems to be missing the point of contests -- there is a prize which you enter to win. The prize should not be a moving target. When I enter a contest or fundraiser through my town, the prize doesn't go from a Day at the Spa for 50 to a pedicure for 5 people. <br /><br />2. HWGA pictures - Still haven't received them how many months after the shoot. Dave says 'waiting for approval from JM, but he is on tour LOL' ... why not send them for his approval months ago? It isn't like the video shoot was yesterday. Releasing the pictures now seems to be an attempt by RR to make good on the numerous promises Gold Members were made; yet Joe is your scapegoat for why they haven't already been released? <br /><br />3. No factual response from RR ... Jenn's blog with less than factual answers is hardly a response. From the beginning @chargerjenn is wrong (its called a price adjustement policy -- go to any retailer and look it up). Their response seems to be limited to attacks on customers, particularly KT. <br /><br />4. Send proof of your donation and we'll refund the money. Really? Luckily, after the gold membership debacle, I didn't entrust RR with any funds. I made my contributions directly to the book drive. However, what is hard about providing the proof people need? Is it better to have someone request for contributions in Brinley's name back (which Mollie has show are needed & appreciated) because RR won't provide proof the funds were used? How do customers of RR know that all the funds were donated they shared were given to Brinley? This isn't hard information to come up with ... If RR isn't equipped to handle charitable funds, pass them along to the appropriate party & provide adequate proof of use, they shouldn't solicit funds in the first place. <br /><br />I am not here to attack anyone's family and wish the conversation would stay out that arena. As a customer of Target, I am unaware if the owner or manager or cashier has a personal problem. The same rules apply here ... as a paying customer (at $89/year rate) my expectation is customer service, not name calling and a resolution of any issue provided. <br /><br />If this forum isn't the means to remedy the situation, I would like to know what forum is ... emails and tweets don't seem to work. <br /><br />Kristin @krisfitz7kristinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-31885872564487262322010-01-16T00:04:26.515-05:002010-01-16T00:04:26.515-05:00Has anyone emailed Jenn to get their "donatio...Has anyone emailed Jenn to get their "donation" money back? Did you receive it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-4124098988032567012010-01-15T22:18:31.878-05:002010-01-15T22:18:31.878-05:00So many people are now taking advantage of the mo...So many people are now taking advantage of the money making machine that is New Kids On The Block. We as fans can sometimes be somewhat gullible because of our love for the guys and our desire to get close to them. I am glad that is stopping now in this case.<br /><br />The less the guys, and in this case Joe, do to put a stop to these kinds of scams, the less it makes me respect them as a band and as people. This makes me really sad because I have loved them for 20+ years. I hope they will start aying closer attention to these kinds of things. Maybe this can be a lesson for us all. Too bad it was so sad.<br /><br />Also I wonder how much money Dave has made from eager BHs in total. Think about $89.99 times how many with all these promises. It makes me sick.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-45680478166996580952010-01-15T21:54:46.204-05:002010-01-15T21:54:46.204-05:00When asked to prove something, innocent people wil...When asked to prove something, innocent people willingly comply. Guilty people get defensive. We all know where Dave and Jenn falls.<br /><br />I am not a gold member nor will I ever be. I don't even listen to RR anymore. Why? Because they are a business who's business practices are unethical and quite frankly, bullshit. I have never seen a company treat their "customers" as poor as Dave. When a customer questions you publically, you DO NOT go on a temper tamptrum tirade to address it. You contact the customer directly to work it out. I don't see UCLA posting a blog about Dave & Jenn because they PUBLICALLY complained about them.<br /><br />As far as I am concerned Dave is a egotistical, self-absorbed, pompus ass. Joe must be a GREAT friend because most people would not want to associate with people like that. BUT, I also believe that Joe has agreed to everything Dave has offered because I doubt Joe would let Dave use his name for these types of things. <br /><br />Bottom line Dave...the proof is in the pudding. Stop being defensive and give the people proof of how their money was donated. Any REPUTABLE company would. And oh ya, if NKOTB fans are not part of your WORLDWIDE listners, why are you getting so upset? How many non NKOTB listeners have signed up for Gold?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-53886150287265165442010-01-15T20:55:36.153-05:002010-01-15T20:55:36.153-05:00There were supposed to be 50 winners for this cont...There were supposed to be 50 winners for this contest. This number was lowered to 5 after the rehearsal was cancelled and the prize was changed to be the Chicago concert instead. We also know that one winner from a contest in October and another one from a contest in November were going to get the Chicago concert as prize. Since Joe's tweet only mentions 5 people in total, does this mean only 3 instead of the promised 50 were drawn from this particular contest? Just curiosity. Dave should disclose the names for the winners of all his contests since he is legally obliged to do this anyway. Somehow I have a feeling that the 5 winners are for all the Joe contests he ever did and not only for the rehearsal one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-67828208552612806532010-01-15T20:54:45.715-05:002010-01-15T20:54:45.715-05:00I know that people seem to think the only reason w...I know that people seem to think the only reason we complain is because we didn't win the contest. But this is not the case. A lot of us signed up for membership due to the promised perks which were not delivered in full (It does say now on his website that RR has the right to remove or change the benefits. Not sure how long ago this was put up there. It wasn't there when I signed up for the membership. Guess none of us bothered back then to screencap the membership information as we all trusted Dave completely.). When questioned about it, RR started throwing tantrums, threatened people to take away perks or called us names (remember when he called us "low life pieces of shit"). That is certainly not what I call "good customer service". Every person working in a customer service position who would behave and treat customers the way Dave does would be fired on the spot because they are too much of a liability for the reputation of the company. So everyone who thinks we are destroying Dave's reputation should realize that he's already done that himself by behaving in the unprofessional manner he did. The thing is that a lot of people don't see that side of Dave because he deletes his tweets / rants all the time so the people who are not on twitter at that time to witness his tirades only see Dave's nice side. And then he sends tweets "check my timeline"... Well maybe Dave could just leave his tweets / comments up so everyone can see his true colours...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-19439353225255114122010-01-15T20:36:46.916-05:002010-01-15T20:36:46.916-05:00I don't know what to make of Joe's tweet b...I don't know what to make of Joe's tweet but I would hope he cares to know both sides of the issues. He is very busy and probably trusts Dave because they are "friends" but that doesn't mean he knows of all his interesting business practices. <br /><br />I have no personal issue with the Gold Members because I am not a member. I do support the members for questioning RR's business ethics and practices.<br /><br />And regardless of Joe tweeting the winners' names, RR has still not replied to my email about a winners list (which I sent 2 days ago). But yet when I just emailed Dave about the video shoot pictures I had a reply in 5 minutes. Even if it was just to tell me that the server was down so he could not send me the pictures. Again, questionable. <br /><br />We still have no answers as to where the donations went. And the fact they want to refund peoples money instead of giving an answer really upsets me. And for the contests using Joe's name...He followed no part of the California law. <br /><br />This all just really saddens me. And to even begin to think that Joe knows all of whats going on and is ok with it saddens me even more. I hope that is not the case. <br /><br />Good luck to all of us in finding a resolution to these problems. I don't think any answers are going to come easily. <br /><br />@ccsilva2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-39785518982436913052010-01-15T20:14:35.837-05:002010-01-15T20:14:35.837-05:00Shouldn't there still be another contest winne...Shouldn't there still be another contest winner for Chicago? Joe's tweet listed 5, but the first one was from a previous contest. So, either the last one didn't want their name posted or didn't confirm and we still have a chance to win?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-23348588238832100422010-01-15T20:07:39.959-05:002010-01-15T20:07:39.959-05:00Sending money to a charity that was never clearly ...Sending money to a charity that was never clearly defined and which has never provided proof of donation is a scam. Sending 89 or even 39 dollars for access to Joe that never happens is also a scam to me. Whether Joe knows that or not these people are opportunists using Joe's name for their own questionable goals. I hope the gravy train closes on Joe's end soon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-87959170572122965632010-01-15T20:02:12.974-05:002010-01-15T20:02:12.974-05:00Wow, it sounds like some people think very little ...Wow, it sounds like some people think very little of Joe and how he maintains his image. At least one person was booked prior to this blog so it seems unlikely he "forced" RR to do it. Are there still too few winners? Perhaps. But I believe if Joe believed that RR were total scam artists he would not have sent even a RT (that is my opinion though). The goal of this blog said they would love to be proven wrong. Not proof, but a good step. Nothing wrong with still asking questions about membership, numbers, and other things-but I think Joe knows about the contests. Also, I am sure tons of people are going to ask at the after parties and when using the MP 3000 cards. <br /><br />But one thing I agree with-no one has to be stupid about anything. BHs are a loving and trusting group, but a little more discretion would never hurt. More investigation is always good. Asking for people to hold their end of things and be accountable-and even better thing!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-72699746288320053662010-01-15T19:24:39.443-05:002010-01-15T19:24:39.443-05:00Regardless of Joe's RT, a scam is a scam is a ...Regardless of Joe's RT, a scam is a scam is a scam. And this is clearly a scam. <br /><br />IMO, Joe either doesn't know the full extent of what's going on, or he's just making sure the contest winners actually get picked. I doubt if he will support the Dave/Jenn/RR operation after this If he is...well then, I just think less of Joe.<br /><br />I hope people don't start sucking up to RR again now because of one silly RT. It's pretty obvious what has been going on here, whether Joe knows the extent of it yet or not. Just because we're BH's doesn't mean we have to be stupid about this stuff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-88667315869389117202010-01-15T19:07:01.786-05:002010-01-15T19:07:01.786-05:00I just saw this VIA Twitter from JOE!!! I cant ima...I just saw this VIA Twitter from JOE!!! I cant imagine he wouls involve himself with someone bad.<br /><br />joeymcintyre Congrats to our RR WINNERS! C u all in Chicago! Allison D, Linda R, Charlie A, Michelle R, Doris V. JM:all +1's! thx, Dave! We got this!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-16692198735701638182010-01-15T12:54:11.134-05:002010-01-15T12:54:11.134-05:00Katie-
I understand your reasons for what you did...Katie-<br /><br />I understand your reasons for what you did, and why you did it. I can only speak for myself in saying that donations collected in my son's name, was done solely for that purpose. If there was anything that eluded to those funds not being used for the intended purpose (and I don't believe there was anything of such nature), it was not with my knowledge. I didn't want anyone to think I was participating in what was suggested to be "shady" or otherwise.<br /><br />I hope you receive the resolution you are looking for in a timely manner.<br /><br />MollieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-8408969482671770922010-01-15T11:43:19.178-05:002010-01-15T11:43:19.178-05:00So far as I have been able to see, none of these a...So far as I have been able to see, none of these allegations are untrue. RetroRewind and ChargerJenn have not even denied most of them. We all know they took our money. We all know there was no rehearsal show and that the last contest also had similar "scheduling problems." We have also, as of yet, had no actual proof of where the hospital donations went. What's the "untrue" part?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8252728478684719795.post-81743635913320427262010-01-15T11:38:50.982-05:002010-01-15T11:38:50.982-05:00Whether or not there are actual winners (now - who...Whether or not there are actual winners (now - who knows what he was planning to do before this blog was posted and he got called out) the fact remains that what was promised is very different than what was delivered! There were supposed to be 15 non-gold winners and "numerous, numerous!" MORE winners from the gold subscriptions. To a rehearsal show in LA. Now it's totally changed to Chicago and 5 winners total. This is messed up not to mention probably illegal. COntests have a responsibility to accurately report the prizes AND the chances of winning, which are obviously much lower now.<br /><br />Dave says Joe closed the contest to the public (read: to him and his sham) but if you are going to run a contest and collect money from peole to enter, it is your responsibility to make sure the prize is GUARANTEED. It's not like this is something Dave was doing from the goodness of his heart. He was TAKING OUR MONEY.<br /><br />My guess is that Joe had no idea how much of an opportunist Dave was and how much money he was collecting for himself and pulled the plug. I doubt we'll be seeing any more Joe/Dave joint "contests" after this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com